The Language of Diversity - Shared screen with speaker view
Wow, impressive panel indeed! Welcome all.
Wow, what a panel!
Here it is
What is the objection to "hispanic”?
How to bridge the gap between “most readers” preferences — leaning to the long-time used terms such as Hispanic — vs. the college age readers who lean to Latinx?
Do Latinx people identify with the word “Hispanic”?
who prefers “Hispanic”?
In Southern CA there is an assumption that all Latino people are Mexican. So I prefer to use Hispanic when I am not sure.
Mary Jo Manzanares
Interesting info about Hispanic/Latinx - That parallels the preference of my extended family - the baby boomer generation (including my husband) prefers Hispanic. The kids (millennials and GenZ prefer Latinx) when identifying themselves.
Bame or BAME may refer to: Black, Asian and minority ethnic, a UK demographic
(From Wikipedia BTW)
Exactly Marty. I also agree with the elitist issue that David Kaufman mentioned. As we know there’s a lot of elitism even within Latino or Latinx :) communities.
on the census Hispanic isn’t even an option. you either have to check black or white, which many Latinx people don’t identify with either
I love that Marty has been kicked out of, apparently, many plantations. Way to speak out!
So what is a better way to write "confederate soldier," for example?
I actually believe we should all stop saying “slaves.” They were enslaved Africans.
Kim Harms Robinson
Tonya can you please speak up or turn up your volume? I'm having a hard time hearing you compared to other panelists :)
I think the issue, particularly in the Caribbean travel industry, is the romanticization of plantations and the colonial era. Slavery happened yes, and should be acknowledged. But let’s not celebrate and sugar-coated in this way.
I’m glad you said that, Lily! I’ve been trying to do a better job of writing “enslaved people” or “enslaved humans” instead of “slaves,” as I think it’s important to be clear that these were PEOPLE.
It would bother me as well
@Lily: A big fat YES to using “enslaved” over “slaves.”
"Confined" to a wheelchair is verboten at the Boston Globe, the thinking being that a wheelchair conveys freedom to move, not confinement.
ANY references to Confederate symbols or history MUST be put into context in all instances. Plantations are also important historic artifacts, just like concentration camps, to reflect the truth of what occurred so it is not repeated. I agree with David: it is important that we acknowledge planations existed as long as we describe exactly what they were.
@Amanda - so important. As an African born and raised, it drives me up the wall every time I hear it. Africans were forced into slavery, it’s an important distinction.
@Sarah Exactly re: former Caribbean plantations!
A takeaway I’m hearing is that despite trying to “get it right,” the writer must listen to and respect the person(s) they are writing about.
Here on Cape Cod, we have a significant Wampanoag population. They prefer Wampanoag Native People to "tribe.," which I know because I asked.
Thank you Ryan. I’ve always wanted to know but was afraid to ask
@Ryan thank you, I had no clue
I thought we had moved away from American Indian, now Native American
I believe so David. I sure have.
Which is most appropriate/preferred -- African American history or Black history? or other?
NAJA says both American Indian and Native American are OK as terms.
Thanks for bringing that up, Hugo.
Brazilians are Latinx but not Hispanics. Spaniards refer to themselves as White Europeans. Do Hispanics have to speak Spanish?
they also note: check a person's preference.
@Jorge I thought that’s what the distinction was with Hispanic - that they are Spanish speaking but not from Spain
from our upcoming entry (off the record) …. Apply the word looters carefully and specifically to those who engage in looting, do not overuse, and avoid the labeling and the stigmatizing of larger communities, groups or all protesters. The word looters applied to large groups has carried racial overtones in the past.
On this journey I continue to learn. Recently when I was writing I described the conical hat, common in Vietnam and other Asian countries, as a coolie hat. I wondered where the colorful word came from and discovered it’s a pejorative, to describe a laborer. Scratched it off my list.
@Lebawit if a “Hispanic” does not speak Spanish are they then considered “Latinx”?
Kasey Kaler: Can you share some best practices for referencing travelers with disabilities?
David, I always wondered what those hats were called. According to Wikipedia: nón lá ("leaf hat")
Thank you David Kaufman for that comment.
@Jorge - Hmmm am thinking. :)
I would say yes, Jorge
Our guidance: LGBT, LGBTQ (adj.) Acceptable in all references for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender, or lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning and/or queer. In quotations and the formal names of organizations and events, other forms such as LGBTQIA and other variations are also acceptable with the other letters explained. I generally stands for intersex, and A can stand for asexual (a person who doesn't experience sexual attraction), ally (some activists decry this use of the abbreviation for a person who is not LGBT but who actively supports LGBT communities) or both. Use of LGBT or LGBTQ is best as an adjective and an umbrella term. Don't use it, for instance, when the group you're referring to is limited to bisexuals. Walters joined the LGBTQ business association. Queer is an umbrella term covering people who are not heterosexual or cisgender and is acceptable for people and organizations that use the term to identify themselves. Do not use it when intended as a slur. Follow guidelines fo
I’ve also seen LGBTQ+
can "gay" be used as an umbrella?
Good question. It used to be, but I think LGBT is poreferred
Kim Harms Robinson
Wondering how museums/attractions should address sensory, physical and other 'challenges' in creating a link that they can go in an effort to see what is offered specifically for them? Accessible seems appropriate but can sometimes be too general.
What about people of Mongoloid decent?
What was the name of the other resource Kasey mentioned for guidelines?
"Accessible” can also have nothing to do with physical limitations
Will someone compile a list of the currently preferred/acceptable list of terms? This discussion is so helpful but there are clearly differing opinions and usage.
Thanks Jill and Kasey
Thank you, Cory. :)
It reminds us of the history and the reality of that time.
Thank you Cory and Marti!
"Enslaved Africans" is people-first and preferable to me. I agree with Marti.
If we stop using BIPOC, what term do we use to refer broadly to non-white people?
I use non-gay!
Why not just mention their specific heritage?
Do people ever use Caucasian?
As opposed to color
Such an awesome panel! Learned so much today. Thank you so much on behalf of the DEI committee.
As a lover of words, I LOVE this session!
This has been an outstanding session.
Yeah, this is brilliant. And what an amazing collection of voices and perspectives. Many thanks to the DEI Cmte and others that helped bring this together.
The word “minority” — can we discuss to stamp it out?
Jantine Van Kregten
Really appreciated everyone's time and expertise today. Thank you!
SUCH an illuminating session. Thanks
What about asian people?
Excellent panel discussion today. Thank you so much everyone for putting this together and sharing thoughts. So helpful
Great Session! Really helpful and thoughtful!
Thank you all so much for your work and helping us examine our own language.
Can anyone address non-binary language, beyond they/their/them? I was recently told I can call my brother's child (who is an adult, not a child) my "nibling," for example. Is there a source for more terms like this?
Good question, Harri! :)
I think each speaker could do a single presentation individually, almost - or this could be another hour (or two) longer…
@Megan: Yes! I detest the term minority! There’s nothing “minor” about me - or anyone else!
I thought the issue was Brazil, where they speak Portuguese
Good question, Harry
Very helpful session. Thanks for providing the opportunity to learn.
Country or culture on Hispanic?
What a great session. Thank you so much for helping us all be more thoughtful and sensitive with our words
Thank you; this has been an excellent session.
Thank you everyone. Fabulous session and great group of experts.
Great session, thank you all so much
What a great panel! A huge thanks to everyone who made this happen.
Hear hear, Sarah!
Great job everyone! Thanks, Tonya!
Thanks for this...
Thanks for this!
Thanks so much, all - this is a great session.
Thank you Marty for even mentioning Asian people
Kim Harms Robinson
That's another great question - how do you say Asian - should you say Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese?
Thank you all for this terrific panel session!
Thanks for this excellent panel!
Thank you. So much useful information.
firstname.lastname@example.org … get in touch if you have thoughts, suggestions, etc.
Thank you Megan & Vickie for organizing this!
Thank You - great session!
Kim Harms Robinson
Excellent panel and discussion. LOVED our panelists honesty and to the point! I also appreciated that people could ask questions without fear
Excellent panel. Lots of information packed nto one hour!
Laura Del Rosso
This was excellent. Learned a lot. Thank you all.
Thanks for this great discussion, agree we could go on for hours
Really appreciate the panel and everyone's time and expertise!
Thanks to everyone. Very illuminating.